That being said, it is an excellent Pokemon. JavaScript is disabled. Typhlosion's biggest problem is arguably Lanturn and Rotom-Heat, but it excels at revenge killing and could run some gimmicky set with Earthquaketo muscle past Lanturn. BDSP - 2022 BDSP Circuit Playoffs - Semifinals Smogon Forums. And interesting. This metagame is run by Eve and a council. Here, our goal is to sort every Pokemon with viability in the SS UU metagame into ranks based on their specific value in the tier. 1 2 Home Forums Competitive Play Smogon Metagames BDSP Metagames Metagame BDSP UU (Raikou banned Post 99) Eve Dec 1, 2021 Prev 1 2 3 4 Toy Time King Feb 22, 2022 76. However, after several months of its continued dominance, Latios was suspected once again. Type GroundFlying. Theinitial list bellow was made in collaboration with Umbramol. In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokmon (this implies that the Pokmon is obtainable. Its a gimmick, but since FB cant miss with No Guard, and it has a high Base Power, it can still do more than it really should. A TIER. Oh also, reminder to not assume Home will allow transfers into BDSP- all official statements about Home connectivity thus far have only mentioned transferring from BDSP to Home. A- to B+ is a small difference and i guess it has to do with how people see those 2 pokemons. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO, Can you calc with sun? It is one of the best revenge killers in the meta, strong stabs that make it a good band user too and its ability while not reckless is still useful.it is however weak to rocks and struggles to switch into stuff. On 5/23/2020 at 7:44 AM, DracoMemes said: On 5/25/2020 at 3:32 PM, DracoMemes said: 0- SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 240-288 (131.8 - 158.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO, 252+ Atk Heracross Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 78-92 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery, ///252+ Atk Heracross Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Bronzong: 84-100 (48.2 - 57.4%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery////252+ AtkHeracross Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 108-127 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. 252+ Atk Heracross Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 78-92 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery///252+ Atk Heracross Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Bronzong: 84-100 (48.2 - 57.4%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery////252+ AtkHeracross Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 108-127 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery, With that being said, you can still outstall it with jelli/vaporeon, Flame orb set- This set, is like any other heracross, if brought in correctly will force a switch, but you get the added bonus of potentially getting a swords dance off. According to my most recent run, here are my two cents about the ranks. i'm really not sure about the damage, If it misses then sun doesn't matter so it is not included in a calc. About Uu Viability Smogon. BDSP - 2022 BDSP Circuit Playoffs - Semifinals Smogon Forums. In the UU viability rankings we base our rankings on how viable certain Pokmon in UU are. Smogon-gen-8- ou - teams . Bisharp can easily put pressure on defog users and boost with Swords Dance to +4 the next turn, it can be extremely powerful if this is pulled off which usually resorts in Defog to be used more sparingly. Then what? However, after several months of its continued dominance, Latios was suspected once again. Both mandi forretress and bronzong are able to stop an already +1 dragon dance Scrafty. Expand on your opinion with actual analysis showing understanding of the metagame and perhaps bringing a unique perspective to the conversation. -Absol now struggles a lot more than before and thats mainly due to the meta being more offensive than before.. now it cant switch into anything or setup into anything. Failure to follow these rules after warning(s) will result in an infraction or possibly a ban depending on the severity of the offenses. Hey! haha yes. The moderators of this forum are Quite Quiet, Amaranth, august, Booty, Finchinator, Heroic Troller, Merritt, Star. Web. Gliscor might not seem like a natural staller, but trainers can definitely pull it off. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Sorry it took so long for an update, I will update the OP at some point with the following changes: B rank to A- DruddigonB rank to A- Sigilyph, Removed Kabutops, Mandibuzz and Gastrodon, Gotta say that i put meta in A+ with heavy heart.. Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . On the bright side,. Coverage-wise, Fighting / Rock / Ground / Filler is pretty much everything it needs. These Pokemon exert a below average presence in the metagame. Absolutely no flaming, personal attacks, or general idiocy will be tolerated. It's very good, but not exactly gamebreaking, moreso on Platinum, an extremely brutal Nuzlocke. VR Spain is hosting the Victory Road Circuit featuring Pokmon Brilliant Diamond and Pokmon Shining Pearl, consisting in four online qualifiers, open to everyone, and the Grand Finals, to which only players residing in Spain can qualify. An S mon simply isnt stopped coldly by the 2 most used pokes in the tier (rotom-h and mandi). It was already deemed too strong once, prompting the first suspect test in BDSP OU that eventually resulted in a close No Ban vote. 252 Atk Guts Heracross Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Metagross: 120-142 (77.4 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Also you forgot to add executtor and victrebeel in B- rank. Web. Web. Halves damage taken from a supereffective Fighting-type attack. And that was with a Jolly nature, which is a terrible nature for a Lickilicky to have. Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. JavaScript is disabled. I'm glad to see Lickilicky in A too, as it doesn't tend to get the respect that it deserves. Even just a +2 Bisharp could sweep if the opponent is damaged enough. A TIER. BDSP OU SS Smogon Strategy Pokedex Composition Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl (BDSP) OU is an Unofficial Metagame based on the Diamond and Pearl remakes and features all of the unique Pokmon in the game. At the end of every turn, holder restores 116 of its max HP. Web. big lots electric fireplaces. Privacy Policy. I am sorry but I do have to disagree with this, I'll go over your points one by one to show why I think it should stay unranked. This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. Web. Web. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. Fight me. Not to mention its poor speed, pretty much every scarf mon outspeed it at +1. Discussion is encouraged and remember that you are always entitled to your opinion but forget not to be respectful to other community members. Oh also, reminder to not assume Home will allow transfers into BDSP- all official statements about Home connectivity thus far have only mentioned transferring from BDSP to Home. It has red eyes, a long snout, and ears. Web. Kabutops is sort of weak without rain, losing out on speed and boosted power on water moves. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Krookodile: 430-507 (129.9 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO Being OU by usage alone does not guarantee a ranking. competitive stats, moves, terastalize types, movesets, natures, abilities, and EV spreads for undefined, Dragapult. I disagree, yes it's not the end all be all pokemon and I certainly don't think it deserves to be B/B+ rank like the guy above me. 1415 Gliscor. -Gastrodon can maybe be a B tier mon but its outclassed by lanturn as a volt stopper special defensively cause rotom can exploit much easier with hp grass and empoleon runs grass knot. -heracross and scrafty right now are in their best.. crobat is dropping because of rotom and people tend to forget how powerful these two are and many teams have no fighting resistances for 2 pokemons that were already hard to wall. It's consistent, but not exactly broken, unlike the others in S. I had one with Guts, and it served me pretty well during my entire run, with very few unfavorable matchups (Fantina and Lucian). I'll break down the 2 most used sets I see currently, which is scarf and flame orb. Coba/Chople is heavily underutilized on the dd set allowing it to take advantage of mons like Crobat, not to mention that while drain punch in nice for recovery it can stillHJK muscle through more tankier mons which helps it get out of control with moxie boosts. Halves damage taken from a supereffective Fighting-type attack. Scarf Gengar easily beats it 1v1, Mismagius needs significant prior damage for Starmie to KO it with Hydro Pump, and Starmie can't touch Shedinja at all. This favoratism towards balance has all but left archetypes like BO in the dust, but there are actually a few Pokemon that can be of great assistance when it comes to breaking these cores and even their offensive pivots like Flygon (<3). I agree with what you say, but it's not S. Even in Umbra's last post, he brought a banded mon that has severe prediction issues and that barely beats one of the "Offensive" stuff I mentioned. In this thread, you're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in Nuzlockes and what tier . RULES. Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. haha yes. It resides in the C+ tier in OU's Viability rankings. 1415 Gliscor. Web. Imo we should update the VR now that Heracross is gone and Celebi has dropped, as well as actually getting a chance to properly rate Shaymin. No denying that. Heracross also suffers from a lack of reliable recovery, and after a while the flame orb ticks start to add up, enough to the point where most priority users will be able to kill it. I just talked about dd set btw, Bulk up is viable but sucks in general if you ask me. I can assure you that the VR Council already knows the obvious qualities and we are far more interested in understanding why you believe it has increased or decreased in viability. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. can i ask why bibarel is A rank? . Web. BDSP OU uses standard Smogon-wide Clauses. Web. However I believe it deserves to be ranked as it does at least have a decent niche in the meta game on stall which is an amazing archetype at the moment. There are just many teams for which another Pokemon that can fulfill its primary roles in a way that better matches the team. In my honest opinion its still very S tier and in action it has given me countless wins.. Yall sleep. hey everyone, slightly different video where I'm talking about the november usage statistics for BDSP OU and creating my own personal viability ranking!let m. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!". Leftovers. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. It has red eyes, a long snout, and ears. competitive stats, moves, terastalize types, movesets, natures, abilities, and EV spreads for undefined, Dragapult. Web. Bisharp is a great anti-offense pokemon which exploits the best wall in UU(mandibuzz) and most other walls struggle to stop it aswell. Web. You must log in or register to reply here. B Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the UU metagame. Also, althoughRotom H is dope, its not a S mon, I think A+ is fine. The top of the list I mostly agree with, especially the mons in the S-A+ range. Welcome to Smogon Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules . This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. This list will be updated more frequently on this discord server, please join in the discussion as well: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________. It's consistent, but not exactly broken, unlike the others in S. Seconding Staraptor to the A-rank realm. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Web. It lowers the power of Water-type moves. Ally Switch Psychic Power Accuracy PP 15 The user swaps positions with its ally. National Dex is a unique format that strives to make Galar mechanics work with every single Pokmon, including those that have been cut from the Pokdex. And I'd say that's enough for it to at least be C rank. JTMF May 2022; BaHOOTenzie; JTMF Oct 2022; 2022 Event Info FAQ; Event Info. Web. -Metagross i commented about in the previous comment.. look above.. i believe people have yet to catch up on hoe powerful it is. ago. Sorry for any confusion. I've been thinking about this, and I think heracross should be moved from A+ to A. Heres why I think that: Going off the definition set for A tier "Reserved for Pokemon that are fantastic in the UU metagame, and can sweep, support, or wall significant portions of the metagame. S-rank is, for me, an exclusive club for game-breakers, and the Starly line doesn't do enough to fall into that category beyond being an instant win button v Gardenia and one of the few early-game 'mons in Sinnoh that can contribute to your team throughout the whole game provided they stay alive (which the Starly line has a tough time doing pretty much from when you hit the mid-game). -Lanturn offers a rotom check and being annoying in general.. but that doesnt justify A+.. it still can be exploited and doesnt wall a bunch of special defensive threats that exist in the tier. But apart from the previous problems that it had now there is rotom mow, toxicroak and k9 with another priority move that can revenge kill it.. i think its current tier is representative of its ability. de. Edit: Let me elaborate. I've been wanting to write up this post since like Friday but I've been going out everyday and coming home at midnight. Web. The rules of the Nuzlocke Forums still apply here. Yes, it can run plenty of sets, yes it can tank a lot of stuff. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. Don't flame, don't spam, and respect others' opinions. As a physical wall it doesnt offer anything more than the existing ones and it struggles to switch into the best wallbreakers. RULES. If it doesn't beat the most common mons with ease and without relying on massively outplaying the opponent, how is this S? Item. Web. Web. No Sceptile already had legitimate success on it's own before the Heracross ban that I thought it was kinda silly that we didn't rank it before. Single use. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO. It's easy! By They can also bring it in safely by using U-turn against Pokemon like Galarian Slowking and Excadrill in the former&x27;s case, or by using Explosion in the latter&x27;s case. Chople Berry. Stay tuned Formats NU UU RU BDSP OU Moves Agility Psychic Power Accuracy PP 30 Raises the user&x27;s Speed by 2. Chople Berry. This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. Froslass is also slightly faster, but all of the Fire-types mentioned should be winning that match up regardless. -Alakazam while I personally love the mon and it has great speed and much power it struggles to wallbreak the bulkiest special defense wall, its very easily to be trapped and killed by the most common pursuiter(scarf krook), it struggles even again mandibuzz unless you hit a focus blast coming in and another after that.. that involves a lot of risk.. also uu has a lot of priority.. A LOT.. and alakazam can be oneshotted by many of those priority moves.. i think the B- tier is very representative on where it stands.. thanks for the feedback though and everyone's opinions are appreciated. I would personally put it in the A-/B+ range. A Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are fantastic in the UU metagame, and can sweep, support, or wall significant portions of the metagame. Team . Alakazam also gets psychic at level 40 if you haven't gotten the TM for psychic yet. What Rapidash CAN do is attack Garchomp before it can move, which is very important when the Pokmon in question is infamous for being a butcher. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Web. Web. Web. We all know that UU is home to many bulky Waters and Steels that make balance cores nearly unbreakable. Fight me. Item. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. If there was one pokemon that did not deserve the untimely end that my team suffered against the Elite Four, it was Lickilicky, but unfortunately I needed it to Surf Flint's entire team to death due to Machamp's demise v Bertha and everything else (Electivire and Mr. Question: I haven't played much BDSP yet, but I used to play DPP on Shoddy back in the day. 2022 Events. Web. 1415 Gliscor. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. company paid cdl training with sign on bonus. EV&x27;s 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 Def Sp. For more information, please see our Gliscor might not seem like a natural staller, but trainers can definitely pull it off. Web. You must log in or register to reply here. 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